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Barefoot Overlander

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Hello all!
I just bought a 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness. Which brings me to some questions. I know there is a lot of discourse regarding Subarus, 4x4s, Overlanding, etc. What’s the view here regarding where one should attempt to take or take a Wilderness trim Subie? For example, the upcoming Sedona run. It specifically states no AWD vehicles, I am curious as to why? Also, when the route says “stock 4x4” or such, where does a Subaru Wilderness fit? The vehicle is not a 4x4, but it does have two off road modes for off road travel. I am trying to get an idea of what trails and routes we should start considering. Thanks!!
 

OTG Ben

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Hi @Barefoot Overlander

The Sedona track includes many OHV trails at various points of the trail. And perhaps a skilled driver could manage a stock Subaru on some of these trails, I assure you the ride with smaller tires and stock suspension will be a punishing experience at best. We tend to take conservative approach to for recommended vehicles, with stock 4x4 being the lowest rating for vehicles at this time. We may incorporate AWD Crossover vehicles at some point down the road, but my recommendation would be to pay attention to the peak technical rating. I wouldn't attempt anything about a 4, and that may be too much for many stock AWD vehicles out there. For the record, I definitely wouldn't attempt Broken Arrow trail in an AWD vehicle.
 

taoracer

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I'm don't remember if we can share links on here (etiquette)? But if you search "softroadingthewest" on YouTube, they have a video titled " Subaru Torq Locker vs Open Diff on the Trail". It's pretty entertaining (being a Subaru owner ;))
It's always a tough pill to swallow when someone says your rig won't make it!
 

Barefoot Overlander

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I'm don't remember if we can share links on here (etiquette)? But if you search "softroadingthewest" on YouTube, they have a video titled " Subaru Torq Locker vs Open Diff on the Trail". It's pretty entertaining (being a Subaru owner ;))
It's always a tough pill to swallow when someone says your rig won't make it!
Hey @taoracer ,
Thanks for replying! I enjoy watching folks heading into a challenge, that’s one reason why I enjoy the OTG YouTube channel so much. I took note that the video was five years old and none of the Subies were Wilderness trims. Which brings up a point I forgot to mention in my initial post. X-Mode. The Crosstrek Wilderness I have has dual X-Mode, one setting for dirt/snow and one setting for deep mud/snow. I did some reading to refresh my mind on the X-Mode functions from some third party sources as well as Subaru. This is from the Subaru site:

X-MODE Features​

When in use, X-MODE engages the following key systems within your Subaru, making crucial adjustments to keep you safe and provide exceptional grip and control.

Engine Throttle Response​

Often our instinct is to apply more power to the accelerator when we are stuck in ice, snow, or mud. Unfortunately, this can deliver too much torque at once, resulting in the throttle opening up too quickly and creating rapid wheelspin with no traction. With X-MODE activated, the engine will deliver torque gradually—even if you floor it!—until the sensors detect that the wheels have achieved sufficient grip, and only then allow the wheels to receive stronger torque and acceleration.

Transmission​

On steep hills or challenging terrain like sand, X-MODE forces the transmission to remain in a lower gear in order to maximize power delivery. This is the same principle used in 4WD manual transmission vehicles when off-roading, but X-MODE executes it responsively at the push of a button, without having to shift down manually.

AWD System​

Subaru vehicles improve on the already outstanding AWD system by increasing the front/rear coupling force, splitting power more evenly between the front and rear sets of tires. This maximizes traction at crucial moments.

VDC System​

With X-MODE in use, the Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC) system provides enhanced Limited-Slip Differential (LSD) control. This means that braking is applied much faster and only to the wheels that need it most because they are slipping or spinning without traction.

Hill Descent Control​

Hill Descent Control (HDC) is a useful feature of X-MODE. When driving down a steep hill with X-MODE engaged, HDC manages throttling and braking automatically, keeping your Subaru steady while you focus solely on steering. Note that HDC only functions below 12 mph.

As I am new to this, what’s the thoughts on these features from you vets out there? Thanks! 🙂
 

taoracer

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Hey Kent,
For what it's worth. I personally feel like those modes/assists, just make it easier to get in over ones head. It's important to know what a car/truck feels like when is out of control (so you can control it! Lol).
Now that's just my opinion : )
Subaru's are awesome cars...er they are awesome tools!
I've been amazed for years how well they handle snow and slippery surfaces.

Whatever gets folks out of the house and enjoying life, that's the bottom line
-Tobe
 

Barefoot Overlander

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Hey Kent,
For what it's worth. I personally feel like those modes/assists, just make it easier to get in over ones head. It's important to know what a car/truck feels like when is out of control (so you can control it! Lol).
Now that's just my opinion : )
Subaru's are awesome cars...er they are awesome tools!
I've been amazed for years how well they handle snow and slippery surfaces.

Whatever gets folks out of the house and enjoying life, that's the bottom line
-Tobe
Thanks Tobe! 🙂
 
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